Episode 41: The Importance of AI Literacy
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Welcome to the Under the Hat podcast,
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the show where we talk
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about everything and
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anything that is top of
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mind in education.
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The goal is to provide
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meaningful conversations to
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what is currently happening
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in our classrooms.
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Stories, pains, moments of success.
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We want to hear it all.
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welcome friends to episode
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forty one of under the hat
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podcast I am your co-host
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steve martinez and as
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always joined by the
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inspirational sophie youngs
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sophie I and I know you're
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about to make fun of me I'm
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really cold um how cold are
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you on this saturday it is
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freezing here in california
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If you're talking scientifically,
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technically,
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it is not freezing in California.
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It is over here in West Virginia.
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I think it just warmed up a
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little bit because we are
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now in the afternoon over
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here in West Virginia.
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So it's just above thirty two.
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Now it's the thirty eight ish degrees.
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But in my office,
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my husband made sure to
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come down and turn the heat
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on a little extra for me
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since I was coming down
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here on a Saturday.
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And it is seventy three in my office.
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I am nice and toasty.
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It's very nice.
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I feel like seventy-three is
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a good temperature for inside.
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I don't know.
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It's nice.
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We usually keep it around seventy.
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But downstairs is chilly.
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Do you have a fireplace?
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Is that something that you have?
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Yeah, we have two.
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You have two?
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Yeah.
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We have one upstairs and one downstairs.
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Yes!
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I beat Steven something.
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and and having fire
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capabilities yes I have one
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but it we cannot use it
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it's not usable we were
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there we had a different
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home it was not a usable
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fireplace whatsoever um so
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my husband turned it into a
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ventless propane like
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that's what we gas one and
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it was very nice there's a
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little bit of a smell but it
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It was not that big a deal.
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And I'm a smelly person.
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You are.
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Yes, I understand.
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I'm sensitive to smells.
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Steve is like, no, she reeks.
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She stinks.
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That's where I was going to go with that.
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I find, though,
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that a fireplace does nothing.
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It doesn't warm up the house at all.
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You have to get really close.
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But my house, the ceilings are very high.
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So I don't know if that has
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anything to do with it.
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But I'm like, dude, why are we?
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Okay, it looks pretty cool.
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I'm still cold.
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Do you not have ceiling fans
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to push the heat down?
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Not in that room.
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No.
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Science.
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Yes.
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You clearly taught science and I did not.
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I'm okay with that.
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Our guest today also teaches science.
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I do.
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Yeah, she does.
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Larissa is an online school teacher.
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You teach?
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Earth science.
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I was about to say,
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I was going to say that.
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I was like, earth science.
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But I was also thinking like earth history,
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because that would be,
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but that also is part of it.
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Like the earth history.
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It is.
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Earth is part of earth science for sure.
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And I used to teach biology
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and I've taught forensics
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and I've taught a lot of
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different things.
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But right now it's just earth science.
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It's a fun science.
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That one's one of the more,
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I think the more fun ones.
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I also really enjoyed eighth
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grade chemistry,
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the one year that I did it,
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because it's like the
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basics and you're just
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learning and having fun
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with like water and like that's it.
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Yes, yes.
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And like the baking water
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and vinegar and talking
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about neutralization
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reactions and stuff like that.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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So that's always fun.
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But Larissa also has her own
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little side business that's TeachWise AI,
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which is AI literacy.
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She also has a literacy club that she runs,
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and she is the co-founder,
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one of the five co-founders
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of the EduGuardians,
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which I'm a member of,
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and Steve is almost a member.
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Yeah, we got to get you on there.
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We need to see your trading card, Steve.
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I think that's the only
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thing I need to do.
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He has the picture.
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Yeah, I'm like some poser, like on X,
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like I have the little, you know,
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my little face as one.
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Yes.
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But I need to, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I do love the energy of the
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edgy guardians.
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Yeah, it's a whole lot of fun.
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We have so much fun and we love to say,
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you know, if you were extra,
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one of those people who are extra, like,
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you're going to be really
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around all of like-minded
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people if you join Magic Guardians,
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because we just enjoy being extra,
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you know, like our crowns,
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just having fun.
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You know,
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I think that a lot of times in education,
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things become very serious, of course,
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they need to be sometimes, but
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bringing back that joy and
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excitement around education
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is where the EduGuardians step in.
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And they're all people who
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love to share resources
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because we can't do this alone, right?
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We,
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sometimes we get in our little box and
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we're just like, oh,
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I don't wanna get out of this, you know,
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like hallway or for example,
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I work from home,
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so I don't wanna leave my house.
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We were talking about that earlier.
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But it's really good to
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expand your network and
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start talking with other
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like-minded people who can
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share resources and just
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different ways of approaching education.
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One of my favorite sayings
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in the EduGuardians is,
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if you don't know how to do it,
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there's an EduGuardian for that.
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And it really is true.
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It's really great.
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I was talking about that.
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Go ahead.
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I was just saying I was at
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NYSCAT a couple weeks ago
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up in New York where I'm originally from.
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And Dan Thomas was telling
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me how he loves that
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anytime he posts on like X
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or Blue Sky and tags as your guardians,
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there's someone who is
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going to answer or there's
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multiple people who are
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going to answer that
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question and give feedback.
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So that is one of the
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reasons it's so powerful.
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Dan's awesome.
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Uh, I've, I've,
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I've connected with Dan a few times.
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Um, I,
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so what I was gonna say earlier is like,
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I,
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I love that because this is just
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something that y'all just started, right?
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Like I kind of appreciate
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that it's not under the
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umbrella of like big tech
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or even any type of company, right?
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Like where like oftentimes like, Oh,
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go be an MIE or go be a Google innovator.
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Like,
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You're a walking billboard at that point.
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But this feels more authentic to me.
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Right, because it really grew randomly.
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It was a grassroots type of thing.
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And Christy Cloud,
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she posted the Microsoft Designer,
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how to make yourself a little superhero.
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And she DMed me, Aileen, and
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farmer fobs heather brown
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and there she was like hey
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guys I found this like go
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ahead and give it a try and
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we all did and then we
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posted ours and then people
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were just like oh where'd
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you get this how do how do
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I do this and we posted the
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link and it just like blew
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up from there like it just
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became you know because all
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of these people who love ed
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tech and use it a lot in
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their classrooms are
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Um,
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they just kept on adding to it and it
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was like all of us were, you know,
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just being extra about it.
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And that's where the,
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the trading cards came from.
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And that's where, you know,
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just like the EduGuardian
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exchange and then the newsletter,
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we got a website,
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we became like official
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official because everyone was asking us,
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well, how do we find out more?
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How do we do more?
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Like, where do I go to, to become one?
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And,
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and uh do I have to pay and
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I'm like no it's definitely
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not like a paid thing it's
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totally free we're just a
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bunch of educators who love
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connecting and sharing
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ideas yeah and it's super
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valuable right like I I
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often think about what
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teaching was probably like years ago
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even like if you want to
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make the argument like
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twenty years ago where like
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you know your classroom and
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your school but you don't
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really at that time you
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didn't know what lived
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beyond those walls right
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and now it's like so easy
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to do that and you know
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starting something like
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EduGuardians makes it to
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where you have a problem
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like there are more places
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more people in your corner
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to help solve those problems
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Definitely, definitely.
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And I'm gonna like age
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myself right now and say I
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did start teaching twenty years ago.
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And that, you know,
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I think back to my first days,
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I started a very small
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Catholic school and I had
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one or two teachers that
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were mentors of mine.
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And that's all the support I had.
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I think back to those days
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and I'm sorry to my students,
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my first or second year.
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So sorry.
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I was not, my heart was in it.
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I loved them to pieces,
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but I was not a good
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teacher those first couple
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of years because you're
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just juggling so many different things.
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You don't know how to teach yet.
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I was also getting my
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master's in science
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education at the time.
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My undergrads was in biology.
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So I didn't even originally
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go to become a teacher.
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but I just fell in love with
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it after substituting.
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And I should have known
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because let's face it when
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it's in your blood, you just,
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and my father was a professor.
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My grandmother was a teacher.
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I've got aunts who are teachers,
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so I should have known,
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but I decided to do biology
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instead and then eventually
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made my way back to education.
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But if I had the EduGuardians and AI,
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my first couple of years of teaching,
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would have been so much
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better oh my gosh it would
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have been incredible right
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uh and then like also when
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you back in the day when I
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first started teaching we
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had the internet but it still wasn't like
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Like I wasn't even on,
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it was Twitter then I wasn't on Twitter.
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I wasn't really act like we had Facebook,
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but it was more like your
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aunt was on there and you were like, oh,
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I don't want my aunt to see my Facebook.
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Like that was the type of
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like social media that was
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sort of there when I started teaching.
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And depending on the school
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that you landed in would really mold the.
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type of teacher you became
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because of the culture, the environment,
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the money, the supplies that you had.
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And it really just like how
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innovative could you be if
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you don't have a lot of money?
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How innovative are you when
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you have all this grant
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stuff and you can actually
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do something with it?
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I was blessed to end up in a
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school that had a lot of
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grant money because of the
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location and the low
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socioeconomic area that I was in.
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when just over the mountain,
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that school was not in the
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same situation.
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So I was very blessed and
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ended up in a school that
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had a lot of tech and I was
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doing some really cool
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things and collaborated
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with a school in Barcelona,
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like my second year teaching.
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So it was just really cool
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that I was able to do things like that,
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but it would have been
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completely different if I
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had had AI and the EduGuardians back then,
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because I wouldn't have felt so alone.
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Yes, I feel you on that, definitely.
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And Steve,
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do you remember your first
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couple of years of teaching?
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Yeah.
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He's like,
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I don't want to talk about those years,
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sorry.
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Well, no, I like, so I,
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my story is very different, right?
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So like me being a social studies teacher,
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that was basically a second career.
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But I was in the education
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context before then as more
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like on a consulting basis
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with music programs and
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percussion ensembles out in California.
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So I was educating and I was
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doing a lot of what we
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consider to be good teaching.
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But I had no idea what any
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of these things were called.
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I was differentiating,
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but I had no idea what that term was.
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And so I came into the
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social studies classroom a
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little bit later in life.
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The technology was already
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quite prevalent.
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I was already using
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technology in the music context.
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So I was using software not
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only to write and design drill and stuff,
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but also during that time,
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I think the innovative
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thing for a percussion
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ensemble was to have a Mac in the pit.
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and to do more with just
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mallet instruments and synthesizers,
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but like effects and mixing
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and stuff like that.
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So I was doing stuff like that.
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So when I came to the classroom,
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the social studies classroom,
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I do remember I have this memory of like,
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you know, okay,
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the way that we typically
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have taught is really just
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moving words and
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information from one location to another.
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but I was in the history context, right?
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So like that was largely
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like where my brain was at.
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And I was like, wait,
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like there's all these
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different ways that we can
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have students engage with content.
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And during that time,
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I was really a big fan of Pear Deck.
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I was a big fan of Microsoft tools.
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And so kind of seeing how, you know,
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students can not just like,
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memorize the information but
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go deeper on a more like on
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a more meaningful level um
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so to answer your question
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like the tools were already
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there um I think the big
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learning that I had when I
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first started was the
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learning management system
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um to me that was big and I
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came from a schoology
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district which that
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involves a lot more
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learning um but earlier
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like when when sophie was
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kind of talking about like oh uh
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When I first started teaching, I was using,
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I almost thought she was
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going to say Internet
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Explorer or MySpace.
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I had a MySpace before I had a Facebook.
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Me too.
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I did.
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I did.
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I did.
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Which kind of is interesting
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in the evolution of social media.
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Because MySpace,
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that was definitely tailored for kids.
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At least that was my memory of it.
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And how it, over time, be like, no, no, no,
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not only adults are going to use this,
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but they're going to use it
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for professional networking
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type of reasons.
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And I just found that thought fascinating.
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Definitely.
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And now we have LinkedIn instead.
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Like, it's interesting how...
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you know, back, what, ten years ago, even,
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LinkedIn was just to find a job, right?
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Like,
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I remember it specifically being just,
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you put your resume and
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your information up there,
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you leave it until you, like,
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are looking for a job,
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then you jump back into it
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and try to figure out if
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you can find a job that way.
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But nowadays, like,
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in the last couple of years, especially,
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I've been, you know,
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on there for TeachWise AI, but
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That's why I, like,
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first got on there for my small business.
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But I have found it to be
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such a great tool for learning.
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Like,
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I learned so much from other people
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on there.
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Well, it's also getting more purposeful.
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Like, you can take courses on LinkedIn.
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Like, you can, like,
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actually learn things online.
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um and for sophie and I
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that's really really
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important because sophie
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and I know a lot about the
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classroom and the school
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district levels and the way
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those systems work but like
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when you go from the
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classroom to private sector
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that's a whole level of
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learning like the marketing
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business sales marketing
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business yeah and that to
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me and sophie I don't know
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I feel Sophie,
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you're stronger with the
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business stuff than I am,
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but I feel like there's not
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enough hours in the day to learn.
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Like there's always learning being,
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and it's the same for teaching too,
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right?
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It's not like, you know,
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so like we all know
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everything there is to know
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about teaching.
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But it's again, a different,
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a different space.
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And therefore there's like a
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whole lot of learning to be done.
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But yeah, no,
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LinkedIn is complete fire if you're,
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if you're trying to grow.
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I,
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my edgy guardian character is the
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inquisitor because I like
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to ask a lot of questions, apparently.
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Really?
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Which is,
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Right.
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Right, Steve.
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So and that is something
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that really I was like, oh, my gosh,
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I do.
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It was a lot of learning
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about myself just by
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becoming an EduGuardian
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because I do ask a lot of questions.
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And that's why Steve might
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think that I'm a little bit
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better at the business thing,
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because if I don't understand something,
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I'm like, why?
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Will you explain that to me?
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And people sometimes are like.
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What?
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You don't believe me?
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I'm like, no,
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I just really just want to know.
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I want to understand.
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And I find the marketing and
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the graphics and all that
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to be fascinating.
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So I tend to lean more
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towards the marketing
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department and be like,
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tell me more about this.
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What are you doing that?
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Why'd you make that decision?
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Why are we only doing that for that?
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And what's going on with this?
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What's your decision for that?
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And they're like, Sophie,
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just stop because they
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don't have the time to
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answer all my questions.
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But they love that I am
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interested and I'm willing
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to learn and to understand and not just
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to be critical.
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And that is something that
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as a very inquisitive person,
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I've had to put out first
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before I even ask them any
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questions that I'm asking to understand,
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not to degrade or second guess you,
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which is- Which I don't
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believe whatsoever.
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I'm just kidding.
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Sometimes, sometimes like,
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because when you're working remotely,
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all you really get is a chat.
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for the most part, right?
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Like Sophie and I will jump
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on a huddle and we'll like
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actually interact like this.
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But like, if it's in a chat, I'm like,
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if I don't hear it, if I don't feel it,
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I'm like, what's Sophie doing here?
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But I- He's like,
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are you being passive aggressive?
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I'm like, no, I really just don't know.
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Like- I'm like, it was so passive.
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Because that's what it can
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look like in a chat though.
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Totally.
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We talk about this a lot in my work too.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's like,
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it's so passive that it just
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ends up being aggressive.
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But,
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a genuine question steve I'm
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usually way more blunt but
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well no and then you kind
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of just learn people as you
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work with them more like
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sophie and I have gotten to
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know each other like we
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know each other very well
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now um but yeah so like the
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whole chat and the way that
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we communicate um
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When I do just offer up my
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time to my former school as a mentor,
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so talking about industry
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and entrepreneurship, all that stuff.
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And that's something I talk about.
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I was like, most of your jobs,
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they'll probably be a
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remote or hybrid thing.
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For sure.
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And so how we teach
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communication now in school,
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that has to look different, right?
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Like, cause it's,
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how do you read in between
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the lines as Sophie says?
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And that's where AI comes in too, right?
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Like,
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AI literacy is so important right now,
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because it is going to
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change the trajectory of
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our students' careers, right?
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Like,
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what will careers look like in twenty
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years?
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Now, I started my career twenty years ago,
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right?
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I had taken a few years off
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to be a stay at home mom.
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So like I have like sixteen,
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seventeen years of actual
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teaching under my belt.
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But twenty years ago,
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I could not have imagined
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that I would be able to
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stay home and teach like
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that was not even in the
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realm of what I thought could happen.
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And then once I moved to South Carolina,
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there was an option.
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My babysitter at the time was like, hey,
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yeah, I'm taking online school.
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I'm like, you're in ninth grade.
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Like at that time, ten years ago.
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Well, yeah, about ten years ago.
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It wasn't a thing in New York.
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Right.
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Like in New York, all they had were.
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uh, colleges that were doing that, right?
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Like you could take courses
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online and stuff like that.
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So I thought to myself, that's,
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that's strange.
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How are you taking courses?
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You're not in college yet.
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And she's like, no, no, no,
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it's a charter school.
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And we are able to do online
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school and get a high school diploma.
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And she's like, by the way,
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they're looking for a science teacher.
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And I was like, Hmm, that's interesting.
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Let me, let me give it a try.
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And so I applied and I
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didn't hear back for like
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two months and I just thought to myself,
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okay, that's not in the cards for me.
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Um, but luckily I did get a call,
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got interviewed and was hired,
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started in may,
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which is such a strange time to start,
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but I was really lucky.
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I started then because the sub,
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the long-term sub,
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she stayed on and like
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trained me for a little while.
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And then when I restarted
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and started at the
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beginning of the year in August,
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I felt so much more comfortable with,
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you know,
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the whole process and our LMS
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and how teaching online worked.
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I mean,
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it certainly was a lot different
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and it took,
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I would say it took me at
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least a year or two to get
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used to transferring my
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skills from the classroom to online.
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but the ed tech industry
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really like having those ed
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tech tools like Pear Deck
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and Screencastify and
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things like that really
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helped me with that
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transition because I
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honestly would just be
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lecturing if I didn't have
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those ed tech tools.
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I would not be able to
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engage my students that much,
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I feel like.
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Yeah, and I remember during the pandemic,
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right, when
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everyone was teaching that
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way um I'm not saying that
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it was a seamless
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transition for me but it
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felt it felt lost it felt
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less weird than like for
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some of my colleagues where
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a lot of my colleagues they
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they were the ones that
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like I'm giving you a piece
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of paper child you're going
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to write information on it
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and I'm going to tell you
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what to write down cool and
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then on friday I'm going to
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give you a test
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And then they're going to be like, oh,
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you're probably going to fail.
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They wouldn't say that to their kids,
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but then they would come back to me like,
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all my kids are failing.
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I'm like, oh, well, yeah, girl.
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They need to actually do
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something with the material
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other than just write it down.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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But the way I was engaging
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with kids online wasn't too
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different than if they were in person.
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Um,
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it was the same tools that were involved.
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It was the same practices.
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And then you get things like
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breakout rooms.
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Right.
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But like, I, I, I just, I just think that,
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um, back to your AI literacy point, um,
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you know,
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kids do have to figure out and
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teachers alike how to,
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how to have this new, um, I don't know.
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I don't want to say villain
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because that's not the right word.
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This other stakeholder now
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that's in education.
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Yeah, you're right.
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From a leader perspective,
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from an admin perspective maybe,
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it's another stakeholder
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that now has value.
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But we have to figure out
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how to position that
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stakeholder now in a place
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where it is going to be
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beneficial for everyone involved.
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definitely so you have this
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focus on AI literacy and so
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like when I think of
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literacy and this is like
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California brain the way
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that we train teachers out
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here like you know we talk
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a lot about like the
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communication piece within how we're
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with our literacy standards, listening,
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reading, writing.
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So with AI literacy now,
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what are the new buckets for us to,
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or the framework,
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how do we organize that if
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somebody is not too versed on it?
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I honestly don't think it's
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much different than literacy.
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You're still talking about communication.
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You're just figuring out how to use AI
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within communicating, right?
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Or use AI within helping
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your students through the content.
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Like do you decide to, for example,
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use a chatbot,
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like one of the school AI
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chatbots to help students
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dive deeper into the material.
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And there's that
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conversation that is happening
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rather than just here's a piece of paper,
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go ahead and write down,
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fill in the blanks and it's
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either right or wrong.
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With those chatbots,
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there's that personalized
00:26:05.502 --> 00:26:07.002
feeling that the students
00:26:07.042 --> 00:26:08.544
are getting personalized
00:26:08.584 --> 00:26:10.544
feedback from the chatbots,
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but the teachers get to see
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the entire conversation.
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I think it's just shifting
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the mindset of the teacher
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does not have to always be
00:26:20.645 --> 00:26:22.446
the one having the conversation.
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It can be between a student and a chatbot.
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It can be between students.
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I did a breakout room where
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the students were working
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together and answering
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questions with the chatbots.
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So they're still
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collaborating with each other.
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But then the chatbot is the
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one taking them through
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this like choose your own adventure.
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We were talking about
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erosion in Yellowstone and
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they had to figure out
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solutions to erosion in the park
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to help with managing it, right?
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Like there's not any perfect
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solution to erosion,
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but how do we combat it so
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that people can still enjoy
00:27:02.777 --> 00:27:05.759
their time at Yellowstone, right?
00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:07.041
So something like that,
00:27:07.061 --> 00:27:09.144
like shifting your mindset
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to allowing AI to be, like you said,
00:27:12.527 --> 00:27:13.508
one of the stakeholders,
00:27:13.929 --> 00:27:15.190
but certainly not the main one.
00:27:17.029 --> 00:27:18.550
right that's important um so
00:27:18.730 --> 00:27:20.672
honestly teachers already
00:27:20.731 --> 00:27:23.694
know all of the pedagogy
00:27:23.755 --> 00:27:24.634
they need to know right
00:27:24.734 --> 00:27:26.737
most do and they're just
00:27:26.797 --> 00:27:30.680
shifting their their way of
00:27:31.579 --> 00:27:32.980
thinking about it with how
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do I use ai in some way or
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don't use ai at all in it
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like for example
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If you are teaching students
00:27:41.987 --> 00:27:43.229
how to write an essay
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completely by themselves,
00:27:45.230 --> 00:27:47.492
brainstorming by themselves, writing,
00:27:48.073 --> 00:27:48.814
then you're not gonna use
00:27:48.874 --> 00:27:50.816
AI at all in that aspect, right?
00:27:51.676 --> 00:27:52.617
But you have to make that
00:27:52.678 --> 00:27:54.960
choice as to when do you
00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:56.761
find AI to be useful?
00:27:58.390 --> 00:27:59.671
And what is it that you're
00:27:59.730 --> 00:28:01.751
actually assessing the students for?
00:28:02.051 --> 00:28:04.873
So can you have students use
00:28:04.992 --> 00:28:06.354
AI for brainstorming if
00:28:06.394 --> 00:28:09.075
that's not part of the assessment?
00:28:09.134 --> 00:28:10.756
If it's just the end point
00:28:10.875 --> 00:28:12.656
of we want them to get an essay.
00:28:13.096 --> 00:28:14.278
And I think every teacher is
00:28:14.298 --> 00:28:15.838
going to make those
00:28:15.898 --> 00:28:18.000
decisions within their own classroom.
00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:19.941
It should be an autonomous
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decision based on their own pedagogy.
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But we also do need policy around it.
00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:33.061
Like every school needs a policy.
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And that's not just to
00:28:36.565 --> 00:28:38.746
protect the teachers and the school,
00:28:38.846 --> 00:28:40.948
but to protect the students as well,
00:28:40.988 --> 00:28:42.989
because there's a lot of
00:28:43.048 --> 00:28:44.651
privacy policy issues that
00:28:44.691 --> 00:28:49.253
go into some of these AI tools.
00:28:50.667 --> 00:28:52.348
But it's not that different
00:28:52.368 --> 00:28:53.829
than using ed tech tools, right?
00:28:53.890 --> 00:28:55.730
They need to be COPA and FERPA compliant.
00:28:56.172 --> 00:28:57.432
They need to make sure
00:28:57.452 --> 00:28:58.473
they're not selling
00:28:59.233 --> 00:29:01.236
students information to third parties.
00:29:03.656 --> 00:29:06.579
The information is not that much different,
00:29:06.660 --> 00:29:08.540
honestly, than what we've been doing.
00:29:09.142 --> 00:29:09.642
It's again,
00:29:09.662 --> 00:29:12.124
just that shift in including AI
00:29:12.163 --> 00:29:16.567
in the conversation.
00:29:16.606 --> 00:29:17.607
I love that you're like,
00:29:18.884 --> 00:29:21.385
Do you want the child to specifically,
00:29:21.465 --> 00:29:21.965
first of all,
00:29:22.365 --> 00:29:24.385
the erosion breakout room
00:29:24.527 --> 00:29:26.366
with the AI bot basically
00:29:26.406 --> 00:29:27.346
being the game master
00:29:27.406 --> 00:29:28.268
instead of the teacher?
00:29:28.748 --> 00:29:29.647
Freaking brilliant.
00:29:29.968 --> 00:29:30.688
Freaking brilliant.
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Second of all,
00:29:36.210 --> 00:29:37.329
there are some teachers that
00:29:37.410 --> 00:29:38.849
are going to be against AI
00:29:38.890 --> 00:29:39.911
period no matter what,
00:29:39.951 --> 00:29:41.151
but they're also kind of,
00:29:41.191 --> 00:29:42.371
I'm seeing a correlation
00:29:42.411 --> 00:29:43.332
here that there are the
00:29:43.491 --> 00:29:44.832
ones that want teachers to,
00:29:45.271 --> 00:29:46.031
they want the kid to do
00:29:46.071 --> 00:29:46.913
everything on their own.
00:29:47.292 --> 00:29:48.232
That they're not open.
00:29:48.749 --> 00:29:51.470
Like their good engaged
00:29:51.509 --> 00:29:54.009
classroom means silence in their room.
00:29:54.750 --> 00:29:55.711
And they're going to be like,
00:29:55.730 --> 00:29:56.471
I'm seeing a correlation
00:29:56.490 --> 00:29:58.770
where they're like, no, we got AI.
00:29:58.790 --> 00:29:59.771
They're just going to be cheating.
00:29:59.791 --> 00:30:01.471
And I'm like, and what's the point?
00:30:02.172 --> 00:30:02.491
You're right.
00:30:02.531 --> 00:30:03.613
What are you actually assessing?
00:30:03.633 --> 00:30:04.992
What's the point of the activity?
00:30:05.613 --> 00:30:06.692
Is it for them to sit there
00:30:06.712 --> 00:30:08.294
and struggle and brainstorm
00:30:08.354 --> 00:30:10.034
alone when they can't think
00:30:10.074 --> 00:30:12.494
of any other ideas or are
00:30:12.515 --> 00:30:13.734
they going to talk with their friends?
00:30:13.914 --> 00:30:15.674
Cause they could also talk
00:30:15.714 --> 00:30:18.036
with an AI bot if they're shy or
00:30:19.214 --> 00:30:20.957
have situational mutism or
00:30:20.977 --> 00:30:21.896
whatever it is where they
00:30:21.916 --> 00:30:24.740
can actually use a technology
00:30:25.458 --> 00:30:26.998
to still collaborate with
00:30:27.038 --> 00:30:28.199
something and brainstorm
00:30:28.219 --> 00:30:29.898
and help them come up with better ideas.
00:30:29.979 --> 00:30:30.878
I use AI all the time to
00:30:30.919 --> 00:30:31.598
come up with better ideas.
00:30:31.679 --> 00:30:32.699
I can't imagine.
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Definitely.
00:30:33.900 --> 00:30:34.900
And that's one thing is why
00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:36.279
are we taking that away
00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:37.700
from our students?
00:30:38.259 --> 00:30:38.559
I mean,
00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:40.520
don't give them ChatGPT because
00:30:40.560 --> 00:30:41.240
that's not, well,
00:30:41.280 --> 00:30:42.661
like depending on their age,
00:30:42.980 --> 00:30:44.662
but why not use something
00:30:44.682 --> 00:30:45.701
that is appropriate for
00:30:45.741 --> 00:30:46.382
them that has the
00:30:46.402 --> 00:30:47.682
guardrails to make it safe,
00:30:47.721 --> 00:30:49.442
like the school AI chatbots, right?
00:30:50.583 --> 00:30:51.942
And I think you're right that
00:30:53.213 --> 00:30:54.336
a lot of teachers they're
00:30:54.376 --> 00:30:55.799
seeing on the news or
00:30:55.839 --> 00:30:56.942
they're seeing like they
00:30:56.981 --> 00:30:59.166
have some kind of um
00:31:00.164 --> 00:31:01.605
the prior knowledge that
00:31:01.625 --> 00:31:03.748
they have about AI is all
00:31:04.127 --> 00:31:05.189
that it's negative, right?
00:31:05.269 --> 00:31:07.651
And there are negative things, of course.
00:31:07.691 --> 00:31:10.993
Like I will talk about both
00:31:11.034 --> 00:31:12.114
the positives and the
00:31:12.153 --> 00:31:13.596
negatives because we need
00:31:13.816 --> 00:31:15.936
to have that conversation,
00:31:16.057 --> 00:31:17.278
those tough conversations.
00:31:17.739 --> 00:31:18.259
So we,
00:31:18.578 --> 00:31:20.461
in AI Club for the Charter Institute
00:31:20.641 --> 00:31:21.402
at Erskine,
00:31:21.501 --> 00:31:24.604
we do talk about the negatives too.
00:31:24.804 --> 00:31:26.945
But what's important is for
00:31:26.986 --> 00:31:28.727
teachers to realize that
00:31:29.768 --> 00:31:31.990
This is actually a tool that can help you.
00:31:32.010 --> 00:31:33.051
It can be like a personal
00:31:33.092 --> 00:31:35.015
assistant to you.
00:31:35.575 --> 00:31:38.598
It can help your students to think deeper.
00:31:39.660 --> 00:31:40.661
When you have, you know,
00:31:40.701 --> 00:31:41.903
two hundred students,
00:31:42.403 --> 00:31:43.545
sometimes you can't
00:31:43.825 --> 00:31:45.166
differentiate all that much
00:31:45.267 --> 00:31:47.088
or personalize it as much.
00:31:47.690 --> 00:31:48.490
And this is great.
00:31:48.971 --> 00:31:49.971
this is where the future is
00:31:50.011 --> 00:31:51.051
going like let's face it
00:31:51.092 --> 00:31:52.593
like ai is not going to be
00:31:52.653 --> 00:31:54.453
like banned for much longer
00:31:54.554 --> 00:31:55.934
if it even is in some
00:31:55.974 --> 00:31:57.895
schools they will have to
00:31:57.996 --> 00:31:59.096
deal with it at some point
00:31:59.556 --> 00:32:01.136
so why not start learning
00:32:01.156 --> 00:32:02.498
about it now in the ways
00:32:02.538 --> 00:32:04.358
that it can benefit and
00:32:04.558 --> 00:32:06.559
also making sure that we are
00:32:07.684 --> 00:32:09.865
choosing ethical ways to use
00:32:09.945 --> 00:32:11.666
it and students yes they
00:32:11.887 --> 00:32:13.008
are if they have not been
00:32:13.048 --> 00:32:14.788
trained on how to use it
00:32:15.069 --> 00:32:16.049
they're going to use it to
00:32:16.069 --> 00:32:17.411
cheat right like they're
00:32:17.451 --> 00:32:19.612
like oh yeah let me copy
00:32:19.632 --> 00:32:20.893
and paste this into chat
00:32:20.913 --> 00:32:22.193
gpt and then it'll just
00:32:22.213 --> 00:32:23.394
make the whole essay for me
00:32:23.434 --> 00:32:24.654
and then I can just submit
00:32:24.674 --> 00:32:25.776
it because I don't care
00:32:25.796 --> 00:32:27.977
about that specific you
00:32:27.997 --> 00:32:29.798
know like they don't see
00:32:30.318 --> 00:32:32.519
the reason to complete that
00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:33.701
assignment they don't feel
00:32:33.760 --> 00:32:35.721
like it is going to help
00:32:35.781 --> 00:32:36.942
them in their life
00:32:37.663 --> 00:32:40.568
So I think that you do have
00:32:40.608 --> 00:32:41.330
sometimes where the
00:32:41.371 --> 00:32:43.034
students are going to use
00:32:43.115 --> 00:32:43.935
it if they're not trained
00:32:43.976 --> 00:32:45.278
correctly on how to use it,
00:32:45.298 --> 00:32:47.703
they're going to use unethically.
00:32:47.884 --> 00:32:48.385
We need.
00:32:49.144 --> 00:32:50.824
to be talking about this with students.
00:32:50.864 --> 00:32:52.265
We need to interact with
00:32:52.285 --> 00:32:54.944
them and show them, how do I use it?
00:32:55.005 --> 00:32:56.805
Well, I'll use it, like you said, Sophie,
00:32:56.825 --> 00:32:59.586
as a brainstorming thought partner,
00:33:00.266 --> 00:33:03.066
or I will use it to help me figure out,
00:33:03.125 --> 00:33:04.547
okay, I have this lesson plan.
00:33:04.906 --> 00:33:07.307
I put the lesson plan that I put in there,
00:33:07.686 --> 00:33:08.807
and I say, how do I make this better?
00:33:08.846 --> 00:33:09.768
How do I make this more
00:33:10.107 --> 00:33:11.847
accessible for all my students?
00:33:12.268 --> 00:33:13.988
It gives me ideas that I
00:33:14.048 --> 00:33:15.388
might not have thought about,
00:33:15.608 --> 00:33:17.628
and that allows for
00:33:18.942 --> 00:33:20.384
better accommodations for all students,
00:33:20.443 --> 00:33:23.508
I feel.
00:33:23.528 --> 00:33:24.489
This isn't really that much
00:33:24.528 --> 00:33:25.210
different than all the
00:33:25.269 --> 00:33:27.692
other trends and new
00:33:27.752 --> 00:33:28.493
technology that has
00:33:28.534 --> 00:33:30.276
happened throughout the ages.
00:33:30.916 --> 00:33:32.578
Social media was dangerous.
00:33:32.618 --> 00:33:34.161
The Internet was dangerous.
00:33:35.063 --> 00:33:36.845
We came together and created
00:33:37.309 --> 00:33:38.869
Lessons to teach students
00:33:38.910 --> 00:33:40.050
about how to be safe on
00:33:40.111 --> 00:33:41.010
social media so that they
00:33:41.050 --> 00:33:42.070
don't get human trafficked.
00:33:43.851 --> 00:33:45.332
Yes, Michelle,
00:33:45.432 --> 00:33:47.192
AI is a wonderful co-teacher.
00:33:47.211 --> 00:33:47.571
It is.
00:33:49.772 --> 00:33:50.633
But this is something
00:33:50.833 --> 00:33:52.553
actually the dangers of it
00:33:52.593 --> 00:33:53.874
is something that I saw
00:33:54.114 --> 00:33:55.314
Michelle Manning actually
00:33:55.374 --> 00:33:57.594
did a post and I saw it and
00:33:57.614 --> 00:33:59.035
it was about AI bias.
00:33:59.075 --> 00:33:59.355
Yes.
00:33:59.375 --> 00:34:02.714
The bias with the doctor and
00:34:02.755 --> 00:34:03.915
teacher getting married?
00:34:04.536 --> 00:34:05.056
Yes.
00:34:05.496 --> 00:34:06.997
the prompt was basically
00:34:07.017 --> 00:34:07.797
create a picture of a
00:34:07.817 --> 00:34:08.516
doctor and a teacher
00:34:08.536 --> 00:34:10.458
getting married and it
00:34:10.518 --> 00:34:12.798
showed two white people the
00:34:12.838 --> 00:34:14.579
doctor was male the teacher
00:34:14.619 --> 00:34:17.742
was female and they were um
00:34:19.862 --> 00:34:21.864
like it appeared to be more
00:34:21.943 --> 00:34:23.864
of a christian right like
00:34:23.885 --> 00:34:25.264
in a church church yeah
00:34:25.284 --> 00:34:26.865
yeah like wedding ceremony
00:34:27.385 --> 00:34:28.766
and it was the conversation
00:34:28.806 --> 00:34:29.887
about ai why I started
00:34:29.907 --> 00:34:31.347
talking like literally no
00:34:31.407 --> 00:34:32.568
information was given both
00:34:32.588 --> 00:34:33.469
their hair was brown
00:34:37.163 --> 00:34:39.302
They both look very fit people.
00:34:39.583 --> 00:34:44.503
There is no diversity
00:34:44.563 --> 00:34:46.704
whatsoever in the four
00:34:46.764 --> 00:34:48.105
images that were shown.
00:34:48.324 --> 00:34:50.385
And I was like- Was there a beard?
00:34:51.746 --> 00:34:52.985
Did anyone have a beard?
00:34:53.806 --> 00:34:54.706
I don't think he had a beard.
00:34:54.726 --> 00:34:55.407
I don't think he did.
00:34:55.907 --> 00:34:57.047
Now I'm really upset.
00:34:57.646 --> 00:35:00.327
He's like, I'm not being represented.
00:35:02.027 --> 00:35:03.750
Her hair was long and
00:35:03.789 --> 00:35:05.130
straight with like curls in it.
00:35:05.210 --> 00:35:07.132
Nothing curly and short.
00:35:07.753 --> 00:35:09.173
Michelle confirmed there was no beard.
00:35:09.213 --> 00:35:11.757
Thank you, Michelle.
00:35:12.757 --> 00:35:15.659
No, but like I, when I was at NYSCAT,
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:16.960
Carl Hooker also talked
00:35:16.981 --> 00:35:18.541
about this in his speech.
00:35:18.603 --> 00:35:20.945
And he was saying that like, if you,
00:35:21.826 --> 00:35:24.047
put in any prompt that you
00:35:24.067 --> 00:35:25.887
will find it will show bias.
00:35:25.907 --> 00:35:27.289
If you're not specific enough, right?
00:35:27.329 --> 00:35:28.730
Like if you are not specific,
00:35:29.130 --> 00:35:30.530
it's gonna look at the
00:35:30.590 --> 00:35:33.112
percentages of people.
00:35:33.233 --> 00:35:35.313
So, you know, it'll say, oh, well,
00:35:35.773 --> 00:35:37.275
maybe there's a bigger percentage,
00:35:37.315 --> 00:35:38.335
slightly bigger percentage
00:35:38.396 --> 00:35:39.795
of doctors that are males.
00:35:40.117 --> 00:35:41.476
Although technically, I mean,
00:35:42.277 --> 00:35:43.077
it has certainly,
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:44.998
that gap has closed a lot
00:35:45.018 --> 00:35:45.960
in the last twenty years.
00:35:46.726 --> 00:35:50.193
Um, but it is looking at, um,
00:35:50.934 --> 00:35:52.235
like percentages,
00:35:52.737 --> 00:35:54.599
but that doesn't mean that
00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:56.282
it's not biased.
00:35:56.382 --> 00:35:58.085
It's still a bias, right?
00:35:58.166 --> 00:35:59.768
Because we're not representing everyone.
00:36:01.050 --> 00:36:01.891
And that's another thing
00:36:01.911 --> 00:36:02.670
that we definitely talk
00:36:02.690 --> 00:36:04.152
about in AI Club at the
00:36:04.192 --> 00:36:06.293
Charter Institute at Erskine.
00:36:06.492 --> 00:36:09.934
We meet twice a month and we
00:36:10.034 --> 00:36:11.355
go over everything from
00:36:11.434 --> 00:36:15.096
prompt engineering to ethics to policy.
00:36:15.175 --> 00:36:16.177
We met with one of our
00:36:16.217 --> 00:36:17.577
congressmen down here in
00:36:17.617 --> 00:36:18.978
South Carolina a few weeks
00:36:19.018 --> 00:36:20.518
ago to talk about policy
00:36:20.619 --> 00:36:23.099
and how it really needs to
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:25.800
be integrated into policy.
00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:29.201
education and we're we are
00:36:29.240 --> 00:36:30.581
doing it at the district
00:36:30.621 --> 00:36:32.161
level as well as my own
00:36:32.202 --> 00:36:33.322
personal school that's
00:36:33.362 --> 00:36:35.023
within the district we have
00:36:35.163 --> 00:36:36.083
these policies that are
00:36:36.123 --> 00:36:38.304
coming out now um but it
00:36:38.344 --> 00:36:40.965
has been really like I I
00:36:41.005 --> 00:36:42.385
feel honored to be included
00:36:42.425 --> 00:36:43.405
in the conversation because
00:36:43.445 --> 00:36:44.905
I do feel like teachers
00:36:45.025 --> 00:36:48.527
need to be there in the
00:36:48.586 --> 00:36:51.947
room helping to make those decisions
00:36:52.661 --> 00:36:53.681
And not just in the room,
00:36:53.802 --> 00:36:54.983
actually sitting at the table.
00:36:55.663 --> 00:36:55.943
Yes.
00:36:56.043 --> 00:36:56.983
Yeah, exactly.
00:36:57.083 --> 00:36:58.003
Sitting at the table.
00:36:58.043 --> 00:36:59.184
Maybe we should be the head of the table.
00:36:59.244 --> 00:36:59.543
I don't know.
00:37:03.264 --> 00:37:03.945
Yes, yes.
00:37:05.905 --> 00:37:06.565
It's so powerful.
00:37:06.585 --> 00:37:08.286
And I love that you actually
00:37:08.306 --> 00:37:09.005
brought your kids because
00:37:09.025 --> 00:37:10.547
that's not like you brought.
00:37:11.795 --> 00:37:13.476
A congressperson to your kids.
00:37:14.056 --> 00:37:15.257
The first time I talked to a
00:37:15.317 --> 00:37:17.599
congressperson was I actually went there.
00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:18.800
It was like a school field trip.
00:37:18.840 --> 00:37:21.242
And I went there and we sat
00:37:21.282 --> 00:37:22.702
at the table and had dinner
00:37:23.722 --> 00:37:25.264
with one of our people.
00:37:25.324 --> 00:37:26.764
But the entire time,
00:37:27.005 --> 00:37:28.425
I was just trying not to
00:37:28.487 --> 00:37:30.128
sneeze because my allergies were bad.
00:37:30.148 --> 00:37:31.327
I don't remember anything about it.
00:37:31.367 --> 00:37:32.289
But the fact that you had
00:37:32.509 --> 00:37:33.510
meaningful conversation
00:37:33.530 --> 00:37:34.351
that the kids were even
00:37:34.391 --> 00:37:37.052
interested in with a congressperson,
00:37:37.072 --> 00:37:38.934
that's an experience that
00:37:39.974 --> 00:37:42.217
is amazing.
00:37:42.496 --> 00:37:42.878
That's just amazing.
00:37:42.998 --> 00:37:43.117
Right?
00:37:43.137 --> 00:37:43.418
Yeah, yeah, it's,
00:37:43.438 --> 00:37:44.960
it has been a huge learning
00:37:45.019 --> 00:37:48.364
experience on my side as well.
00:37:48.385 --> 00:37:50.047
Because honestly, as a teacher,
00:37:50.427 --> 00:37:51.809
I before the last two years,
00:37:51.909 --> 00:37:53.972
I didn't really think much about
00:37:54.706 --> 00:37:56.228
FERPA and COPA compliancy
00:37:56.528 --> 00:37:59.213
and policies made at the,
00:37:59.693 --> 00:38:01.797
not just district, but state level,
00:38:02.637 --> 00:38:04.280
I just was following them, right?
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:05.320
Like I was just like, okay,
00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:06.282
this is what we've been
00:38:06.302 --> 00:38:08.184
trained on and following everything.
00:38:08.224 --> 00:38:10.527
But now we have an opportunity
00:38:11.289 --> 00:38:13.969
to mold the future with AI.
00:38:14.309 --> 00:38:15.751
And that's why it's so
00:38:15.811 --> 00:38:17.650
important for all teachers
00:38:18.271 --> 00:38:19.411
and students to get
00:38:19.452 --> 00:38:21.373
involved in making those
00:38:21.393 --> 00:38:25.233
decisions to have their voices heard.
00:38:25.373 --> 00:38:26.755
I think that's really important.
00:38:26.875 --> 00:38:29.135
And the more I talk to my students as well,
00:38:29.775 --> 00:38:31.315
they really love the
00:38:31.356 --> 00:38:34.016
ability to be more creative.
00:38:34.036 --> 00:38:35.617
They feel like using AI
00:38:35.777 --> 00:38:36.978
helps them to be more
00:38:37.018 --> 00:38:38.759
creative than they normally would be.
00:38:40.208 --> 00:38:41.688
And I, I, I understand that.
00:38:41.708 --> 00:38:43.110
Cause I'm like, yeah, definitely.
00:38:43.130 --> 00:38:43.309
Like,
00:38:43.329 --> 00:38:46.731
I feel like I'm given more time to be
00:38:46.791 --> 00:38:48.152
creative because I don't
00:38:48.172 --> 00:38:49.333
have to spend as much time
00:38:49.574 --> 00:38:52.396
on some of those things that are not as,
00:38:52.635 --> 00:38:53.916
um, high of a level.
00:38:54.016 --> 00:38:54.177
Like,
00:38:54.197 --> 00:38:55.677
cause I now have a personal assistant
00:38:55.697 --> 00:38:56.097
to do that.
00:38:56.137 --> 00:38:56.418
Right.
00:38:57.338 --> 00:38:58.840
Which is, which is counter,
00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:01.360
which is counter to what
00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:02.722
some of the perception is
00:39:03.081 --> 00:39:05.423
like on a more like societal level,
00:39:05.483 --> 00:39:05.744
right.
00:39:05.784 --> 00:39:09.226
Where like teachers or non teachers alike.
00:39:09.945 --> 00:39:12.628
feel that the big AI threat
00:39:13.568 --> 00:39:14.831
besides like a Terminator
00:39:14.871 --> 00:39:19.454
situation I guess is is
00:39:19.494 --> 00:39:22.036
like taking away it is
00:39:22.077 --> 00:39:23.478
taking away the creativity
00:39:24.371 --> 00:39:25.672
and but what you're saying
00:39:25.713 --> 00:39:26.273
is like you're saying the
00:39:26.452 --> 00:39:27.554
opposite of that that it
00:39:27.614 --> 00:39:29.074
makes it even more possible
00:39:29.715 --> 00:39:31.795
um so what what do you what
00:39:31.815 --> 00:39:32.916
do you say to the naysayers
00:39:32.956 --> 00:39:35.257
that like are like saying
00:39:35.277 --> 00:39:36.498
that like ai is just going
00:39:36.518 --> 00:39:38.199
to completely cripple
00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:42.601
creativity as a people I I
00:39:42.681 --> 00:39:44.884
say get more involved in
00:39:46.193 --> 00:39:48.074
what you know how people are
00:39:48.134 --> 00:39:49.175
using it because let's face
00:39:49.295 --> 00:39:51.456
it the internet has some
00:39:51.476 --> 00:39:52.737
really awful things right
00:39:52.836 --> 00:39:53.836
and it's got some amazing
00:39:53.876 --> 00:39:56.117
things um social media has
00:39:56.137 --> 00:39:57.278
some really awful things
00:39:57.378 --> 00:39:57.958
and it's got some really
00:39:58.018 --> 00:40:00.760
amazing things so I I don't
00:40:01.201 --> 00:40:03.222
I think that if if you are
00:40:03.262 --> 00:40:05.043
a naysayer I understand
00:40:05.103 --> 00:40:06.903
like this is this is what
00:40:07.083 --> 00:40:08.224
you you are looking at the
00:40:08.264 --> 00:40:10.025
news you are listening to
00:40:10.525 --> 00:40:12.067
the negatives of
00:40:13.027 --> 00:40:14.068
where AI comes in.
00:40:14.148 --> 00:40:15.349
And maybe you're even seeing
00:40:15.489 --> 00:40:17.490
in your students using it the wrong way.
00:40:18.050 --> 00:40:18.532
Yes,
00:40:18.851 --> 00:40:22.275
that those are all things we should be
00:40:22.315 --> 00:40:22.894
worried about.
00:40:23.775 --> 00:40:25.197
But I think that the more
00:40:25.518 --> 00:40:27.018
involved we all get,
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:28.380
both the people who are
00:40:28.420 --> 00:40:30.702
cheering on AI and the naysayers of AI,
00:40:31.061 --> 00:40:32.003
we have to continue with
00:40:32.023 --> 00:40:33.143
those conversations and we
00:40:33.224 --> 00:40:36.226
have to help to mold it for the future.
00:40:36.266 --> 00:40:36.586
Because
00:40:37.172 --> 00:40:40.476
If we are not all involved, then yes,
00:40:40.576 --> 00:40:44.518
the big tech companies like
00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:48.342
Meta or Apple or Microsoft,
00:40:48.561 --> 00:40:49.402
they are going to make
00:40:49.443 --> 00:40:50.784
those decisions for us.
00:40:52.070 --> 00:40:54.010
And I do think it continues
00:40:54.070 --> 00:40:56.391
to like that level of
00:40:56.492 --> 00:40:58.532
regulation and policy as well.
00:40:58.572 --> 00:40:59.351
I think we need,
00:40:59.552 --> 00:41:00.893
we really need to start pushing for that.
00:41:00.932 --> 00:41:01.813
So if you're a naysayer,
00:41:01.932 --> 00:41:05.532
get involved in the AI world.
00:41:05.853 --> 00:41:08.014
And I don't think it's a bad
00:41:08.054 --> 00:41:11.054
thing to be pushing one way or the other,
00:41:11.134 --> 00:41:11.333
right?
00:41:11.434 --> 00:41:12.675
I think that we need to have
00:41:12.715 --> 00:41:17.355
those really gray area conversations.
00:41:17.375 --> 00:41:17.856
Yes.
00:41:17.896 --> 00:41:18.956
Gray area conversations,
00:41:19.016 --> 00:41:20.135
because in the long run,
00:41:21.143 --> 00:41:22.144
it's gonna make things safer
00:41:22.184 --> 00:41:24.106
and better and yes yes and
00:41:24.186 --> 00:41:25.306
I've had a lot of um
00:41:25.327 --> 00:41:27.668
teachers come into our
00:41:27.708 --> 00:41:30.010
trainings and they're just
00:41:30.030 --> 00:41:31.592
like I hate AI it's it's
00:41:31.612 --> 00:41:32.913
the worst and I'm like okay
00:41:33.233 --> 00:41:34.233
like we can start there
00:41:34.293 --> 00:41:35.315
that's fine like we will
00:41:35.355 --> 00:41:37.115
start with the bad things
00:41:37.396 --> 00:41:38.617
and we can have that
00:41:38.657 --> 00:41:39.838
discussion but let me show
00:41:39.878 --> 00:41:42.059
you what else it can do and
00:41:42.139 --> 00:41:43.320
I've had some attitude
00:41:43.340 --> 00:41:45.503
shifts like one of my co-workers is like
00:41:46.063 --> 00:41:47.023
I really didn't think I was
00:41:47.063 --> 00:41:48.403
going to use AI at all this
00:41:48.443 --> 00:41:49.503
year with my students
00:41:49.543 --> 00:41:50.864
because of the bad
00:41:50.885 --> 00:41:52.525
experiences I had last year
00:41:52.945 --> 00:41:55.465
because of unknowns and all that.
00:41:55.505 --> 00:41:56.385
But she's like,
00:41:57.286 --> 00:42:01.068
I'm realizing that if I'm
00:42:01.128 --> 00:42:03.047
not using it and I'm not
00:42:03.108 --> 00:42:04.789
showing my students how to use it,
00:42:05.389 --> 00:42:06.789
it's really detrimental to
00:42:06.829 --> 00:42:08.090
them for their future
00:42:08.150 --> 00:42:09.690
because they will have to
00:42:09.891 --> 00:42:11.951
use it in their careers, you know,
00:42:12.050 --> 00:42:12.972
whether they're in seventh
00:42:12.992 --> 00:42:14.032
grade now or twelfth grade now.
00:42:16.333 --> 00:42:17.532
It's kind of like, okay,
00:42:18.233 --> 00:42:19.135
I did not teach math,
00:42:19.255 --> 00:42:19.934
so I'm going to sound like
00:42:19.974 --> 00:42:20.615
an idiot right now.
00:42:20.835 --> 00:42:25.798
But I know that there's – just again,
00:42:26.679 --> 00:42:27.320
it's cyclical.
00:42:28.181 --> 00:42:30.623
So I know that there's – so
00:42:30.882 --> 00:42:31.623
my memory is that there
00:42:31.643 --> 00:42:32.764
were certain math classes
00:42:32.784 --> 00:42:35.385
like calculus where a
00:42:35.445 --> 00:42:38.027
calculator is definitely needed.
00:42:39.692 --> 00:42:40.893
it would be the same thing
00:42:40.972 --> 00:42:42.594
if a teacher's like, oh, by the way,
00:42:42.773 --> 00:42:43.994
you are going to have this
00:42:44.034 --> 00:42:45.235
calculator in life
00:42:45.275 --> 00:42:46.715
sometimes and on this test,
00:42:47.215 --> 00:42:48.175
but I'm not going to model
00:42:48.215 --> 00:42:49.157
or show you how to use it
00:42:49.396 --> 00:42:52.398
whatsoever to pass the test
00:42:52.617 --> 00:42:54.318
or to be successful, right?
00:42:54.998 --> 00:42:56.139
It's the same kind of idea.
00:42:56.219 --> 00:42:56.579
It's like,
00:42:56.780 --> 00:42:57.960
it's not like they're going to
00:42:58.021 --> 00:43:00.702
leave our classrooms and be
00:43:01.402 --> 00:43:03.043
completely removed from
00:43:03.103 --> 00:43:04.244
this type of technology.
00:43:04.284 --> 00:43:05.023
It's going to be more and
00:43:05.063 --> 00:43:06.184
more a part of their lives.
00:43:06.644 --> 00:43:06.784
So,
00:43:08.489 --> 00:43:09.429
don't know that just that
00:43:09.449 --> 00:43:10.391
thought just occurred to me
00:43:10.431 --> 00:43:11.851
just referring back to like
00:43:11.891 --> 00:43:13.172
that one memory I have of
00:43:13.213 --> 00:43:15.414
being in a math class being
00:43:15.454 --> 00:43:17.275
able to do some math using
00:43:17.315 --> 00:43:19.036
a calculator right like a
00:43:19.077 --> 00:43:20.458
graphing calculator but
00:43:20.498 --> 00:43:21.378
it's because the teacher
00:43:21.398 --> 00:43:22.998
showed me how if we don't
00:43:23.018 --> 00:43:24.840
show them how we're not
00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:25.900
setting them up for success
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:28.862
and that's I love that you
00:43:28.882 --> 00:43:29.664
brought up the calculator
00:43:29.704 --> 00:43:31.025
thing because I even remember
00:43:35.103 --> 00:43:36.362
being told you're not going
00:43:36.382 --> 00:43:37.804
to have a calculator in your pocket.
00:43:37.844 --> 00:43:38.903
You need to memorize your
00:43:38.943 --> 00:43:41.905
multiplication tables.
00:43:42.445 --> 00:43:42.885
We have a freaking
00:43:42.925 --> 00:43:44.686
calculator in our pockets now.
00:43:47.826 --> 00:43:48.206
And it's,
00:43:48.746 --> 00:43:50.666
it's more about the understanding
00:43:50.746 --> 00:43:51.306
the math that you're
00:43:51.327 --> 00:43:52.668
putting into the calculator
00:43:52.688 --> 00:43:54.007
than it is the calculator
00:43:54.027 --> 00:43:55.088
doing the math for you,
00:43:55.128 --> 00:43:57.148
because you could put all
00:43:57.188 --> 00:43:58.528
the numbers you want to in the calculator,
00:43:58.548 --> 00:43:59.170
but that doesn't mean that
00:43:59.210 --> 00:44:00.829
it's coming out right.
00:44:00.869 --> 00:44:02.130
Because you could forgot a
00:44:02.190 --> 00:44:03.610
parentheses or you put it
00:44:03.630 --> 00:44:04.251
in the wrong way.
00:44:05.168 --> 00:44:06.070
or it didn't it wasn't
00:44:06.130 --> 00:44:07.010
actually a fraction it was
00:44:07.050 --> 00:44:08.210
dividing and like it's just
00:44:08.811 --> 00:44:11.253
like it's a different set
00:44:11.313 --> 00:44:13.014
of skills yes it's a
00:44:13.034 --> 00:44:13.974
different set of skills you
00:44:13.994 --> 00:44:15.054
still need to be taught how
00:44:15.094 --> 00:44:15.894
to do it so that you
00:44:15.914 --> 00:44:17.416
actually do understand what
00:44:17.456 --> 00:44:19.077
you're doing rather than
00:44:19.117 --> 00:44:20.518
just punching in blindly
00:44:21.177 --> 00:44:22.119
copying and pasting and
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:23.780
going which is exactly what
00:44:23.820 --> 00:44:24.719
some kids are doing with ai
00:44:25.900 --> 00:44:27.621
oh my gosh yes definitely
00:44:27.702 --> 00:44:28.702
but they were doing it
00:44:28.842 --> 00:44:31.023
before I too right like there were
00:44:31.586 --> 00:44:33.027
my there's something called
00:44:33.088 --> 00:44:35.170
brainly.com that is like my
00:44:35.251 --> 00:44:37.873
arch nemesis because you
00:44:37.893 --> 00:44:39.355
know it's we have a
00:44:39.414 --> 00:44:40.735
curriculum we go through
00:44:40.956 --> 00:44:42.697
and um there are questions
00:44:42.777 --> 00:44:44.378
on there that are basic
00:44:44.418 --> 00:44:45.340
multiple choice questions
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:46.961
or whatever and you can
00:44:47.001 --> 00:44:48.362
tell when the students have
00:44:48.422 --> 00:44:49.403
looked it up because they
00:44:49.423 --> 00:44:50.726
got a hundred within under
00:44:50.766 --> 00:44:53.788
a minute and I just know
00:44:53.829 --> 00:44:55.010
like I go to brainly.com
00:44:55.030 --> 00:44:55.891
and I look and I'm like
00:44:56.643 --> 00:44:57.063
Oh,
00:44:57.184 --> 00:44:59.144
like it's not worth the battle of me
00:44:59.644 --> 00:45:01.025
writing to them and saying, hey,
00:45:01.045 --> 00:45:03.085
this is what it what has
00:45:03.144 --> 00:45:04.485
had to happen instead is a
00:45:04.525 --> 00:45:05.925
shift in assessment.
00:45:06.206 --> 00:45:07.905
OK, let me shift the assessment.
00:45:08.327 --> 00:45:08.626
Well,
00:45:09.186 --> 00:45:11.126
it's not that important that these
00:45:11.166 --> 00:45:11.967
multiple choice like I
00:45:11.987 --> 00:45:12.668
don't want them to just
00:45:12.708 --> 00:45:14.168
memorize and regurgitate.
00:45:14.208 --> 00:45:14.467
Right.
00:45:14.708 --> 00:45:15.688
I want them to be able to
00:45:16.088 --> 00:45:17.548
use what they have learned
00:45:17.909 --> 00:45:18.969
and be able to research.
00:45:19.409 --> 00:45:20.650
And I think that those
00:45:20.690 --> 00:45:22.210
assessments are a lot more
00:45:22.269 --> 00:45:23.851
important than just the
00:45:23.951 --> 00:45:25.911
regurgitation type of assessments.
00:45:26.012 --> 00:45:30.092
And it's a little harder for them to, like,
00:45:30.152 --> 00:45:32.014
if you will, cheat on those.
00:45:33.614 --> 00:45:36.215
But with AI, if you can show them,
00:45:37.235 --> 00:45:37.476
you know,
00:45:37.615 --> 00:45:42.958
how to integrate AI in a way
00:45:42.978 --> 00:45:43.978
that they're still learning
00:45:44.838 --> 00:45:46.739
and helping them to
00:45:47.565 --> 00:45:49.248
manage those skills of
00:45:49.367 --> 00:45:51.489
integrating AI literacy into their lives.
00:45:52.090 --> 00:45:54.172
So I think that's really important.
00:45:54.193 --> 00:45:54.853
And I think we're going to
00:45:54.934 --> 00:45:57.115
see a huge shift in assessments,
00:45:57.235 --> 00:46:01.960
especially in middle and high school.
00:46:01.981 --> 00:46:02.882
I love that you mentioned
00:46:02.902 --> 00:46:03.922
those shift in assessments.
00:46:03.963 --> 00:46:04.364
Sorry, Steve,
00:46:04.503 --> 00:46:06.465
I am dominating this conversation today.
00:46:07.853 --> 00:46:08.952
seems like I cannot get a
00:46:08.972 --> 00:46:10.574
word in edgewise with these
00:46:10.594 --> 00:46:12.414
two women no but like a lot
00:46:12.454 --> 00:46:15.576
of what sophie is saying
00:46:15.596 --> 00:46:17.155
though like so when she's
00:46:17.195 --> 00:46:19.077
jumping in it's low-key
00:46:19.117 --> 00:46:20.878
like very similar to what
00:46:20.978 --> 00:46:24.318
I'm thinking and so uh sophie go ahead
00:46:25.782 --> 00:46:26.702
I love that you mentioned
00:46:26.742 --> 00:46:27.684
assessments and the way
00:46:27.724 --> 00:46:28.423
you're pivoting your
00:46:28.445 --> 00:46:29.605
assessments because one of
00:46:29.644 --> 00:46:30.865
the things that I heard
00:46:30.905 --> 00:46:33.027
when AI was coming out and
00:46:33.047 --> 00:46:33.708
teachers were getting
00:46:33.748 --> 00:46:34.469
scared and they're like,
00:46:34.489 --> 00:46:35.469
they're just going to cheat.
00:46:36.190 --> 00:46:36.690
I was like,
00:46:36.871 --> 00:46:38.871
if a computer or a robot can do
00:46:38.913 --> 00:46:39.492
it for them,
00:46:39.612 --> 00:46:42.355
then why are you asking them to do it?
00:46:44.721 --> 00:46:44.940
Right.
00:46:45.201 --> 00:46:47.041
And there's a certain level
00:46:47.101 --> 00:46:48.202
where that's true, right?
00:46:48.322 --> 00:46:50.603
I mean, I'm not talking elementary level,
00:46:50.682 --> 00:46:52.083
but once you get to middle
00:46:52.103 --> 00:46:52.824
and high school,
00:46:53.264 --> 00:46:54.744
we should be expecting more
00:46:54.784 --> 00:46:56.204
of these students and we
00:46:56.266 --> 00:46:57.346
should give them the tools
00:46:57.365 --> 00:46:58.306
that they're going to have
00:46:58.346 --> 00:46:59.806
in their regular jobs once
00:46:59.827 --> 00:47:01.206
they get there to make them
00:47:01.246 --> 00:47:03.547
more efficient and effective.
00:47:03.588 --> 00:47:03.847
Right.
00:47:05.068 --> 00:47:06.128
And that was kind of like
00:47:06.909 --> 00:47:08.469
what I was going to say earlier was like,
00:47:09.811 --> 00:47:12.351
I hear a lot of conversations around...
00:47:13.657 --> 00:47:13.838
oh,
00:47:14.217 --> 00:47:16.878
we need to change like our bell to bell
00:47:16.918 --> 00:47:17.358
lesson,
00:47:18.039 --> 00:47:20.759
but not enough on what you're
00:47:20.818 --> 00:47:21.920
saying of like,
00:47:22.820 --> 00:47:23.840
it's not just the teaching,
00:47:23.860 --> 00:47:25.519
it's the assessment piece, right?
00:47:25.579 --> 00:47:26.139
Like of,
00:47:26.860 --> 00:47:30.121
and is the assessment aligned with
00:47:30.161 --> 00:47:32.422
how life assesses us?
00:47:33.181 --> 00:47:35.161
So like in life,
00:47:36.202 --> 00:47:37.202
it's really rare that we
00:47:37.222 --> 00:47:39.902
have to go and pass a test, right?
00:47:40.702 --> 00:47:41.802
Unless you're Steve right now.
00:47:42.503 --> 00:47:43.443
Unless you're Steve right now.
00:47:43.523 --> 00:47:44.724
And that's a different conversation.
00:47:44.963 --> 00:47:46.224
I can provide context on that later.
00:47:46.525 --> 00:47:48.985
But like for the most part,
00:47:49.045 --> 00:47:51.367
you don't have to just, you know,
00:47:51.606 --> 00:47:53.586
do the archaic assessments
00:47:54.208 --> 00:47:55.688
that we've been asking kids
00:47:55.728 --> 00:47:58.028
to do for the last however hundred years.
00:47:58.289 --> 00:47:58.509
Right.
00:47:58.909 --> 00:47:59.949
So I do love that idea of
00:47:59.969 --> 00:48:01.489
making the assessment more authentic.
00:48:02.219 --> 00:48:03.679
more meaningful, more hands-on,
00:48:04.460 --> 00:48:05.641
because that's essentially
00:48:05.701 --> 00:48:06.940
what's more aligned to what
00:48:06.981 --> 00:48:11.943
we experience as adults, right?
00:48:12.083 --> 00:48:13.364
I see some pushback with that, though,
00:48:13.405 --> 00:48:14.826
because it takes longer to grade.
00:48:14.846 --> 00:48:16.425
It takes longer to provide feedback.
00:48:16.465 --> 00:48:18.086
It takes more time out of the teacher.
00:48:18.186 --> 00:48:20.347
Doesn't that go back to the AI piece,
00:48:20.509 --> 00:48:20.869
though?
00:48:21.268 --> 00:48:22.869
Yes, exactly.
00:48:24.217 --> 00:48:26.340
And so one thing that I've
00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:27.603
been really focusing on
00:48:27.822 --> 00:48:29.125
with my interns and my
00:48:29.164 --> 00:48:32.509
student teachers are is you
00:48:32.548 --> 00:48:33.871
need to do the feedback in
00:48:33.911 --> 00:48:35.813
the moment because once
00:48:36.293 --> 00:48:39.438
that moment vanishes, it's too late.
00:48:39.478 --> 00:48:39.998
They don't care.
00:48:40.853 --> 00:48:42.594
They care while they're crafting it,
00:48:42.735 --> 00:48:43.775
while they're doing it.
00:48:44.077 --> 00:48:45.277
But if you think that you're
00:48:45.297 --> 00:48:46.599
going to assign an essay
00:48:46.818 --> 00:48:47.860
and then that you're going
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:49.021
to grade it and then
00:48:49.061 --> 00:48:49.840
they're going to go and
00:48:49.902 --> 00:48:51.362
read that feedback afterwards,
00:48:52.123 --> 00:48:54.304
you are sadly mistaken.
00:48:54.385 --> 00:48:56.427
Like it has to happen in the moment.
00:48:56.447 --> 00:48:57.268
If it doesn't happen in the
00:48:57.307 --> 00:48:59.248
moment with this generation,
00:48:59.268 --> 00:49:01.331
with these kids, it's too late.
00:49:02.538 --> 00:49:03.838
More immediate feedback.
00:49:03.858 --> 00:49:04.900
The more immediate it is,
00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:06.621
the more effective it's going to be.
00:49:06.822 --> 00:49:07.842
And I like to think of it
00:49:07.882 --> 00:49:09.744
sometimes feedback and
00:49:09.764 --> 00:49:10.945
grading when it comes to
00:49:11.005 --> 00:49:12.346
like basketball practice or
00:49:12.405 --> 00:49:13.327
even sport practice.
00:49:14.608 --> 00:49:16.829
If the coach were to record practice,
00:49:17.769 --> 00:49:18.690
watch it later,
00:49:19.472 --> 00:49:21.873
then come back with feedback and be like,
00:49:21.893 --> 00:49:22.954
you should have done it this way.
00:49:22.974 --> 00:49:24.556
It's too late.
00:49:24.576 --> 00:49:25.577
Like he has no idea.
00:49:25.597 --> 00:49:26.496
They don't even remember how
00:49:26.516 --> 00:49:27.657
they did it the first time.
00:49:27.677 --> 00:49:27.998
Yeah.
00:49:29.547 --> 00:49:30.487
yeah it's way too late
00:49:30.527 --> 00:49:31.228
you're giving them that
00:49:31.268 --> 00:49:33.188
feedback during practice
00:49:33.429 --> 00:49:35.989
not days later yeah and
00:49:36.028 --> 00:49:37.449
that formative assessment
00:49:37.489 --> 00:49:38.590
type of thing where like
00:49:38.809 --> 00:49:40.489
school ai chatbots does it
00:49:40.969 --> 00:49:42.971
uh curapod the the ai
00:49:43.010 --> 00:49:44.231
feedback can do that
00:49:44.451 --> 00:49:45.811
immediately with curapod
00:49:45.990 --> 00:49:47.871
and bris teaching has got
00:49:48.652 --> 00:49:49.871
um several different ways
00:49:49.911 --> 00:49:51.693
that you can provide pretty
00:49:51.733 --> 00:49:52.853
immediate feedback
00:49:53.612 --> 00:49:56.213
uh for students and and I'm
00:49:56.514 --> 00:49:57.353
I'm focused a little bit
00:49:57.393 --> 00:49:58.235
more about formative
00:49:58.255 --> 00:49:59.054
assessment because I feel
00:49:59.074 --> 00:50:00.474
like that's where we are
00:50:00.574 --> 00:50:02.735
more of the time but with
00:50:02.775 --> 00:50:03.916
summative assessment you
00:50:03.956 --> 00:50:05.516
probably are going to take
00:50:05.536 --> 00:50:07.057
a little bit longer to give
00:50:07.097 --> 00:50:08.838
that feedback just because
00:50:09.137 --> 00:50:09.998
you know if it's a research
00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:10.958
project or something like
00:50:10.978 --> 00:50:11.778
that it's going to take
00:50:11.818 --> 00:50:14.280
longer but during that process oops sorry
00:50:15.581 --> 00:50:16.061
You're going,
00:50:16.181 --> 00:50:17.240
I know I talk with my hands
00:50:17.260 --> 00:50:17.942
because I'm half Italian
00:50:18.322 --> 00:50:19.181
and I can't help it with
00:50:19.202 --> 00:50:20.702
the microphone in front of me.
00:50:21.003 --> 00:50:24.364
But that's going to, you know,
00:50:24.385 --> 00:50:25.706
allow for the students to
00:50:25.786 --> 00:50:27.706
give you a better summative
00:50:27.806 --> 00:50:29.086
assessment anyways, right?
00:50:29.146 --> 00:50:30.068
If you're giving them
00:50:30.128 --> 00:50:31.389
formative assessment
00:50:31.648 --> 00:50:34.969
feedback in the process.
00:50:35.030 --> 00:50:36.271
Yes, one hundred percent.
00:50:36.291 --> 00:50:36.670
I agree.
00:50:37.492 --> 00:50:38.992
I would also like to throw in there,
00:50:39.413 --> 00:50:41.333
Kami's class view allows you to provide a
00:50:42.523 --> 00:50:42.983
Forward-Obsessive.
00:50:43.003 --> 00:50:43.844
That's right.
00:50:43.903 --> 00:50:44.923
That's right.
00:50:44.943 --> 00:50:46.585
And I know you didn't
00:50:46.605 --> 00:50:47.264
mention it because you
00:50:47.284 --> 00:50:48.346
don't have the right LMS to
00:50:48.405 --> 00:50:49.065
integrate with,
00:50:49.126 --> 00:50:50.487
but that's why I wanted to bring it up.
00:50:50.507 --> 00:50:53.148
But you know I love all Pammy stuff.
00:50:53.987 --> 00:50:54.588
I know.
00:50:55.108 --> 00:50:55.228
I know.
00:50:55.588 --> 00:50:56.710
There is something that I'm
00:50:56.750 --> 00:50:57.969
excited to tell you about later,
00:50:58.050 --> 00:51:00.210
but being able to see all
00:51:00.331 --> 00:51:01.771
your students work like you
00:51:01.791 --> 00:51:03.492
can and a lot of different
00:51:03.512 --> 00:51:05.393
tools to get that holistic
00:51:05.413 --> 00:51:06.333
view of their work,
00:51:06.373 --> 00:51:08.155
whether you're right next to them or...
00:51:08.954 --> 00:51:09.996
not even in the room with
00:51:10.016 --> 00:51:10.876
them while they're working
00:51:10.936 --> 00:51:15.338
on something is, is, is so amazing.
00:51:15.378 --> 00:51:16.257
Like I never thought I would
00:51:16.277 --> 00:51:19.498
be able to do that as a teacher because I,
00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:20.719
when they're practicing,
00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:21.800
I was a math teacher before
00:51:21.820 --> 00:51:22.820
I became a science teacher.
00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:24.820
And when they were practicing their work,
00:51:25.621 --> 00:51:27.961
there was only one of me to be like, Oh,
00:51:27.981 --> 00:51:28.523
try that again.
00:51:29.282 --> 00:51:29.503
Oh,
00:51:29.523 --> 00:51:30.983
I can't see everybody's paper at the
00:51:31.003 --> 00:51:31.724
same time.
00:51:33.565 --> 00:51:34.485
But she came now.
00:51:35.913 --> 00:51:36.472
That's right.
00:51:36.532 --> 00:51:38.534
It is, it is transformative.
00:51:38.753 --> 00:51:39.594
It is like this.
00:51:39.733 --> 00:51:39.833
And,
00:51:40.173 --> 00:51:43.474
and we can either decide to embrace
00:51:43.775 --> 00:51:44.775
the transformation that's
00:51:44.795 --> 00:51:45.875
happening in education,
00:51:46.536 --> 00:51:49.795
or we can put our horns up and like,
00:51:49.835 --> 00:51:51.836
just try to try to go
00:51:51.896 --> 00:51:54.157
against it is going against the grain is,
00:51:54.358 --> 00:51:54.978
is tough.
00:51:55.297 --> 00:51:56.077
And again, like,
00:51:56.536 --> 00:51:58.557
I'm not against having those
00:51:58.838 --> 00:51:59.759
deeper conversations.
00:51:59.798 --> 00:52:00.739
I think those are important,
00:52:01.300 --> 00:52:04.764
but let's all get on the
00:52:05.184 --> 00:52:06.907
thought process of this is
00:52:06.967 --> 00:52:07.887
not going away.
00:52:08.148 --> 00:52:11.090
Like this is not going anywhere, right?
00:52:11.170 --> 00:52:12.291
So that's why I feel like
00:52:12.311 --> 00:52:13.293
it's really important for
00:52:13.333 --> 00:52:17.117
having like a PLN, like the EduGuardians.
00:52:17.396 --> 00:52:19.318
And one thing that has been,
00:52:20.224 --> 00:52:23.005
just really helping me be on
00:52:23.025 --> 00:52:23.706
the cutting edge of
00:52:23.746 --> 00:52:25.527
technology and education is
00:52:26.188 --> 00:52:31.429
the conferences like FETC, McCall, ISTE,
00:52:31.949 --> 00:52:32.570
NYSCATE.
00:52:32.610 --> 00:52:34.150
Like I have learned an
00:52:34.190 --> 00:52:35.911
incredible amount from
00:52:36.132 --> 00:52:38.032
others at each of these
00:52:38.333 --> 00:52:40.853
events and not just the sessions,
00:52:41.293 --> 00:52:42.914
but having those authentic
00:52:42.974 --> 00:52:44.215
conversations that are
00:52:44.335 --> 00:52:45.896
one-on-one with people are,
00:52:46.416 --> 00:52:47.817
it is powerful.
00:52:54.826 --> 00:52:57.327
I just like hearing you both
00:52:57.347 --> 00:53:01.032
like just chatting about all of this.
00:53:01.672 --> 00:53:02.552
The one thing that comes to
00:53:02.592 --> 00:53:04.313
mind is like how AI and
00:53:04.353 --> 00:53:06.936
maybe like even all the ed tech tools,
00:53:07.356 --> 00:53:08.717
the big conversation I've
00:53:08.737 --> 00:53:10.398
been having and just kind
00:53:10.418 --> 00:53:11.320
of remind me of it is like
00:53:11.760 --> 00:53:13.382
how it all gives teachers
00:53:13.481 --> 00:53:15.523
more visibility.
00:53:16.434 --> 00:53:18.135
like like you know like like
00:53:18.175 --> 00:53:18.815
we spend a lot of time
00:53:18.835 --> 00:53:19.998
talking about data we start
00:53:20.257 --> 00:53:21.438
talking about student
00:53:21.498 --> 00:53:22.440
monitoring but like the
00:53:22.500 --> 00:53:24.282
common the common thing
00:53:24.302 --> 00:53:25.643
with all that is the
00:53:25.663 --> 00:53:27.545
visibility you want to see
00:53:27.644 --> 00:53:28.465
kind of like what sophie
00:53:28.485 --> 00:53:29.806
was talking about I guess
00:53:29.847 --> 00:53:30.887
sophie works for cammy I
00:53:30.907 --> 00:53:32.349
guess uh but like you know
00:53:32.389 --> 00:53:34.472
like like talking about
00:53:34.532 --> 00:53:36.293
class view talking about
00:53:36.574 --> 00:53:38.414
that visibility versus the
00:53:38.434 --> 00:53:39.737
visibility of like
00:53:40.077 --> 00:53:42.217
uh it was mentioned earlier
00:53:42.297 --> 00:53:43.358
something along the lines
00:53:43.378 --> 00:53:45.298
of like a teacher seeing
00:53:45.778 --> 00:53:47.139
dialogue between the
00:53:47.298 --> 00:53:50.019
students and the right the
00:53:50.079 --> 00:53:52.581
school ai yeah and like
00:53:52.621 --> 00:53:54.302
just I think overall like
00:53:54.322 --> 00:53:56.702
the having that level of
00:53:56.762 --> 00:53:57.882
visibility that wasn't
00:53:57.922 --> 00:53:58.882
possible that was
00:53:58.922 --> 00:54:00.304
impossible twenty years ago
00:54:01.003 --> 00:54:02.304
it was almost like you we
00:54:02.324 --> 00:54:03.465
were just guessing we're
00:54:03.505 --> 00:54:05.204
just like throwing darts in
00:54:05.244 --> 00:54:07.346
the dark and hopefully they get it
00:54:08.101 --> 00:54:10.081
and it really made it to
00:54:10.121 --> 00:54:10.983
where there was more
00:54:11.023 --> 00:54:12.204
responsibility on the
00:54:12.264 --> 00:54:14.545
family on the student and
00:54:14.585 --> 00:54:15.505
not enough on the teacher
00:54:15.545 --> 00:54:17.706
but now that responsibility
00:54:17.746 --> 00:54:20.128
is shifted because it's I
00:54:20.188 --> 00:54:20.969
think a little bit more
00:54:21.068 --> 00:54:22.309
equitable right a little
00:54:22.329 --> 00:54:23.951
bit more fair in the sense
00:54:23.990 --> 00:54:25.552
of like no teachers should
00:54:25.592 --> 00:54:27.172
be held accountable too for
00:54:27.452 --> 00:54:28.373
now especially now that
00:54:28.393 --> 00:54:29.474
they have that visibility
00:54:29.534 --> 00:54:30.335
of what they're learning
00:54:32.065 --> 00:54:32.726
where the gaps are.
00:54:32.746 --> 00:54:32.887
Right.
00:54:34.208 --> 00:54:35.768
And I think Sophie made a good point, too,
00:54:35.789 --> 00:54:36.730
where she was saying that
00:54:37.429 --> 00:54:39.811
students who might not
00:54:40.132 --> 00:54:41.974
speak up in class often or
00:54:42.914 --> 00:54:44.675
don't speak while they're
00:54:44.735 --> 00:54:45.597
in front of other people,
00:54:46.898 --> 00:54:49.260
these chatbots allow them
00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:50.380
to have a voice.
00:54:51.641 --> 00:54:53.003
And I have seen,
00:54:53.123 --> 00:54:54.344
I have had friends who
00:54:55.425 --> 00:54:56.286
there was a student
00:54:57.309 --> 00:54:59.130
Of his that wrote down
00:54:59.190 --> 00:55:00.411
something that like they
00:55:00.431 --> 00:55:01.132
needed to have the
00:55:01.172 --> 00:55:02.634
counselor come and talk to
00:55:02.673 --> 00:55:03.914
her about because she
00:55:03.954 --> 00:55:04.914
didn't feel comfortable
00:55:05.474 --> 00:55:06.876
talking to an actual human
00:55:06.896 --> 00:55:07.516
like face to face.
00:55:07.536 --> 00:55:09.557
It was too hard for her to explain,
00:55:10.278 --> 00:55:11.820
you know, whatever abuse was happening.
00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:14.021
And for her to be able to
00:55:14.521 --> 00:55:16.603
put it in to one of these
00:55:16.643 --> 00:55:17.704
chatbots and for the
00:55:17.724 --> 00:55:19.065
teacher to see it and it
00:55:19.125 --> 00:55:20.565
red flags anything like that.
00:55:20.706 --> 00:55:21.865
It red flags it so no
00:55:21.905 --> 00:55:22.726
teacher will miss it.
00:55:23.478 --> 00:55:25.619
and he was able to get her
00:55:25.900 --> 00:55:27.161
that help she needed
00:55:27.320 --> 00:55:29.402
immediately and she had
00:55:29.422 --> 00:55:30.563
been holding on to this for
00:55:30.583 --> 00:55:33.103
a long time like so it I
00:55:33.123 --> 00:55:33.923
think that there are
00:55:33.963 --> 00:55:35.864
different levels of help
00:55:36.085 --> 00:55:41.648
that ai can sure allow for
00:55:41.688 --> 00:55:43.369
that is powerful like
00:55:43.389 --> 00:55:45.670
that's amazing yeah and it
00:55:45.730 --> 00:55:47.010
I'm not I feel for the
00:55:47.030 --> 00:55:49.012
child I do but I'm so glad
00:55:49.032 --> 00:55:52.213
that it's out yeah you know
00:55:52.233 --> 00:55:52.954
like an ai helped
00:55:53.833 --> 00:55:56.056
helped her right helped her
00:55:56.096 --> 00:55:56.777
to be able to express
00:55:56.797 --> 00:55:58.057
herself in a way and we've
00:55:58.097 --> 00:55:59.199
seen this with ed tech
00:55:59.219 --> 00:56:00.739
tools right if a student
00:56:01.139 --> 00:56:02.121
maybe is on the spectrum
00:56:02.260 --> 00:56:03.802
and cannot communicate
00:56:03.862 --> 00:56:06.804
verbally um they can type
00:56:06.864 --> 00:56:08.326
it in they can have a
00:56:08.365 --> 00:56:09.806
conversation through their
00:56:10.027 --> 00:56:12.789
ipad and that is something
00:56:12.809 --> 00:56:13.871
that if they didn't have
00:56:13.891 --> 00:56:15.793
that ipad they would not be
00:56:15.833 --> 00:56:16.893
able to effectively
00:56:16.934 --> 00:56:18.574
communicate at all which
00:56:19.092 --> 00:56:20.494
is why there's sometimes a
00:56:20.514 --> 00:56:21.534
lot of behavior issues
00:56:21.594 --> 00:56:22.653
because they're not able to
00:56:22.673 --> 00:56:25.034
communicate what they're feeling.
00:56:25.976 --> 00:56:27.155
So I think ed tech,
00:56:28.135 --> 00:56:29.817
it can have a huge impact
00:56:29.936 --> 00:56:32.257
positively on students for sure.
00:56:32.277 --> 00:56:35.139
Hands down, I agree.
00:56:36.175 --> 00:56:37.717
This conversation has filled
00:56:37.757 --> 00:56:39.418
my bucket for the day.
00:56:40.059 --> 00:56:46.246
I have so much to reflect on
00:56:47.266 --> 00:56:49.769
with respect to literacy.
00:56:50.090 --> 00:56:52.092
Literacy is something that I
00:56:52.112 --> 00:56:52.954
think about often.
00:56:55.469 --> 00:56:57.032
And not just as an educator,
00:56:57.072 --> 00:56:59.554
but like as a parent, as a father, like,
00:56:59.635 --> 00:57:02.878
you know, like my daughter, she's in,
00:57:02.958 --> 00:57:03.980
I mentioned this on the show before,
00:57:04.019 --> 00:57:04.260
I think,
00:57:04.300 --> 00:57:06.443
but she's in a dual immersion program,
00:57:06.722 --> 00:57:06.922
right?
00:57:06.963 --> 00:57:09.085
Where she's like, her literacy is like,
00:57:10.922 --> 00:57:12.083
all over the place like
00:57:12.463 --> 00:57:14.463
english spanish like the
00:57:14.523 --> 00:57:16.266
the listening component of
00:57:16.346 --> 00:57:19.367
of it all um uh but I I do
00:57:19.387 --> 00:57:21.409
think that I love that you
00:57:21.568 --> 00:57:22.510
answered my question
00:57:22.610 --> 00:57:23.751
earlier in like the most
00:57:23.791 --> 00:57:24.891
simplistic way of like
00:57:25.251 --> 00:57:26.693
steve don't overthink this
00:57:27.132 --> 00:57:28.634
it's the same buckets of
00:57:28.693 --> 00:57:29.534
literacy that you already
00:57:29.594 --> 00:57:31.635
have it's just now we just
00:57:31.655 --> 00:57:32.896
threw like a little like a
00:57:32.916 --> 00:57:34.197
little blankie on top of it
00:57:34.717 --> 00:57:37.059
that now like helps us with
00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:38.099
it we just have an extra
00:57:38.139 --> 00:57:40.842
tool really it's what we have yeah
00:57:41.686 --> 00:57:41.927
Yeah.
00:57:42.628 --> 00:57:44.309
Yeah.
00:57:44.329 --> 00:57:45.190
No, certainly love that.
00:57:45.409 --> 00:57:45.750
Love that.
00:57:46.230 --> 00:57:47.451
I really appreciate you being on the show,
00:57:47.572 --> 00:57:49.193
but there's like,
00:57:49.233 --> 00:57:51.094
we have always that big
00:57:51.134 --> 00:57:53.996
question at the end of the show.
00:57:54.016 --> 00:57:57.318
And you may have touched on it already,
00:57:57.358 --> 00:57:59.340
but like, you know, it's what we do here.
00:58:00.081 --> 00:58:00.802
What is under the hat?
00:58:00.842 --> 00:58:03.222
What is top of mind for you right now?
00:58:03.463 --> 00:58:03.744
What is,
00:58:03.824 --> 00:58:04.603
what is something that's
00:58:04.704 --> 00:58:06.786
resonating with what's
00:58:06.826 --> 00:58:07.766
happening in education?
00:58:09.541 --> 00:58:12.403
You know, I'm going to go back to AI.
00:58:12.923 --> 00:58:14.164
That is my baby, right?
00:58:14.525 --> 00:58:16.246
I mean, I am an earth science teacher.
00:58:16.306 --> 00:58:17.847
That's my full time job, right?
00:58:18.268 --> 00:58:19.648
But I have been able to
00:58:19.889 --> 00:58:23.512
integrate AI literacy in my own classroom,
00:58:23.672 --> 00:58:25.813
even though I don't teach AI, right?
00:58:26.155 --> 00:58:28.076
I do train teachers on AI, obviously,
00:58:28.115 --> 00:58:29.657
but I do not.
00:58:30.237 --> 00:58:31.398
That's not my number one job
00:58:31.438 --> 00:58:33.561
is to teach AI to students.
00:58:34.240 --> 00:58:36.282
But I can certainly
00:58:36.382 --> 00:58:37.782
integrate it within my
00:58:37.822 --> 00:58:39.884
content so that they are
00:58:40.143 --> 00:58:43.865
able to use it and understand, you know,
00:58:43.945 --> 00:58:45.927
the the implications of it.
00:58:46.806 --> 00:58:48.268
I feel like if every teacher
00:58:48.327 --> 00:58:50.628
were to implement it in some way,
00:58:52.250 --> 00:58:55.291
it would be just next level,
00:58:55.751 --> 00:58:56.992
allowing the students to
00:58:57.032 --> 00:58:58.152
get those skills that they
00:58:58.172 --> 00:59:00.693
are going to need for their future.
00:59:00.733 --> 00:59:02.054
So I would
00:59:03.253 --> 00:59:04.414
know request that everyone
00:59:04.454 --> 00:59:06.677
give it a try and see how
00:59:06.717 --> 00:59:08.338
they can ethically
00:59:08.518 --> 00:59:09.820
integrate it into their own
00:59:09.860 --> 00:59:13.483
classrooms yeah love that
00:59:13.523 --> 00:59:15.766
love that we we uh we had a
00:59:16.067 --> 00:59:17.889
guest on a few episodes ago
00:59:17.949 --> 00:59:20.911
I think uh sophie can
00:59:20.931 --> 00:59:21.711
correct me if I'm wrong
00:59:21.753 --> 00:59:24.135
like like uh but uh we had
00:59:24.155 --> 00:59:25.215
someone on the show talk
00:59:25.235 --> 00:59:27.137
about like initiative burnout
00:59:28.112 --> 00:59:30.134
um where and that's kind of
00:59:30.173 --> 00:59:31.516
reminds me of that like if
00:59:31.536 --> 00:59:33.177
we can just like pull that
00:59:33.257 --> 00:59:33.998
in for a second because
00:59:34.018 --> 00:59:35.800
like teachers have like oh
00:59:35.840 --> 00:59:36.521
you have to teach the
00:59:36.561 --> 00:59:38.021
digital digital citizenship
00:59:38.081 --> 00:59:38.882
and then the literacy
00:59:38.902 --> 00:59:39.684
standards and then the
00:59:39.724 --> 00:59:41.045
content standards and then
00:59:41.905 --> 00:59:43.246
uh the committees and
00:59:43.708 --> 00:59:45.228
underwater basket weaving
00:59:45.289 --> 00:59:46.309
like all the other things
00:59:46.329 --> 00:59:48.411
that they may be involved with right and
00:59:49.092 --> 00:59:51.175
I just love how you frame AI
00:59:51.215 --> 00:59:52.876
literacy as just like, look,
00:59:53.297 --> 00:59:54.257
you can squeeze it in.
00:59:54.297 --> 00:59:58.021
You can do it seamlessly if
00:59:58.141 --> 00:59:58.963
implemented correctly.
01:00:00.396 --> 01:00:01.996
It's not a separate entity.
01:00:02.297 --> 01:00:05.018
It can be woven in to your past.
01:00:05.038 --> 01:00:06.077
And what I love about
01:00:06.097 --> 01:00:07.278
weaving it in is that it's
01:00:07.318 --> 01:00:09.239
helping my students learn earth science.
01:00:09.260 --> 01:00:12.101
Like that's what I want, right?
01:00:12.181 --> 01:00:13.780
That's my number one goal.
01:00:13.981 --> 01:00:15.222
Get them to learn the
01:00:15.262 --> 01:00:16.422
content for earth science
01:00:17.163 --> 01:00:18.123
and the skills that they
01:00:18.163 --> 01:00:18.963
need for the future.
01:00:18.983 --> 01:00:21.605
Yeah, a hundred percent.
01:00:21.625 --> 01:00:22.304
A hundred percent.
01:00:23.242 --> 01:00:24.422
We really appreciate you.
01:00:25.643 --> 01:00:26.643
At some point,
01:00:26.864 --> 01:00:32.346
I will be in the ranks of edugardianship.
01:00:32.365 --> 01:00:34.766
I need to get your card.
01:00:34.867 --> 01:00:36.646
I have got a whole bunch of cards.
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I've got my whole collection,
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so I need to add yours to my collection.
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I've got Sophie's already.
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But thank you both so much
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for having me on.
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I loved this conversation.
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If you know, you know, my husband will say,
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go talk to someone else about AI.
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I know.
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I talk about it all the time.
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So thank you for giving me a
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platform to talk more about it.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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For everyone listening, watching,
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really appreciate you.
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Remember, thanks to Sophie.
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Thanks to Sophie.
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We have a store.
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Um, and so there,
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this is a month for
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shopping in case you're not
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buying things for others.
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I think my family is just
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going to get a bunch of hats.
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Uh, so be sure to check out the website.
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Um, and, and, you know, so just as,
01:01:27.351 --> 01:01:28.393
as a reminder, you know,
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under hat pod.com,
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you'd find the store there.
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Uh, check out all the,
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all the phenomenal things.
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Sophie,
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are we expecting anything new in
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the store or is that really
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going to be a twenty twenty five push?
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I am going to try and get
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out an ornament ASAP.
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So maybe you can put it
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right there on your tree.
01:01:51.275 --> 01:01:51.556
Right.
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It'll be perfect.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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So I'm looking through all
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the different options
01:01:56.036 --> 01:01:57.538
before the show actually went live.
01:01:57.577 --> 01:01:58.518
So we are going to get an
01:01:58.577 --> 01:02:01.360
ornament very soon.
01:02:01.619 --> 01:02:03.460
And hopefully that will work
01:02:03.500 --> 01:02:04.681
with your color schemes for
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your Christmases.
01:02:05.760 --> 01:02:07.521
If you're anything like me, it will.
01:02:08.784 --> 01:02:09.927
And even if it doesn't,
01:02:10.327 --> 01:02:14.092
go get a different tree.
01:02:14.353 --> 01:02:15.956
Okay, this year I have three trees.
01:02:16.456 --> 01:02:18.039
I have one in the garage.
01:02:18.699 --> 01:02:19.942
That's just a black tree.
01:02:22.483 --> 01:02:23.663
my wife's in death industry
01:02:23.682 --> 01:02:26.405
so that's yeah there's that
01:02:26.605 --> 01:02:28.226
and we have two trees so we
01:02:28.246 --> 01:02:30.407
have two trees and so Riley
01:02:30.447 --> 01:02:32.148
gets all the trees a tree
01:02:32.188 --> 01:02:34.648
per room almost so but yeah
01:02:34.688 --> 01:02:35.829
so go go check that out
01:02:35.849 --> 01:02:38.391
friends know that the the
01:02:38.411 --> 01:02:39.391
rest of this month will be
01:02:39.411 --> 01:02:41.693
a little quiet here on the show
01:02:42.353 --> 01:02:44.353
um we have one more episode
01:02:44.713 --> 01:02:46.574
uh somebody that is a
01:02:46.655 --> 01:02:48.275
friend of mine um really
01:02:48.315 --> 01:02:50.117
involved in the community
01:02:50.396 --> 01:02:52.018
if you're out here in in
01:02:52.038 --> 01:02:54.840
the west uh lisa moe uh she
01:02:54.940 --> 01:02:56.199
she'll be on I believe next
01:02:56.239 --> 01:02:57.820
weekend we're gonna wrap up
01:02:57.940 --> 01:03:01.443
episode for this calendar
01:03:01.483 --> 01:03:02.784
year we'll be chatting it
01:03:02.804 --> 01:03:03.724
up next week with
01:03:03.784 --> 01:03:04.885
everything that she's done
01:03:04.905 --> 01:03:05.844
everything that she is
01:03:05.885 --> 01:03:07.306
working on phenomenal human
01:03:07.826 --> 01:03:10.487
um and so just be on the lookout for that
01:03:11.909 --> 01:03:12.911
yeah we really appreciate
01:03:12.990 --> 01:03:15.393
all of you and you know
01:03:15.574 --> 01:03:16.936
continue to share that love
01:03:17.036 --> 01:03:18.759
on social I'm gonna I've
01:03:18.778 --> 01:03:19.800
been really quiet on the
01:03:19.860 --> 01:03:21.161
social media stuff we're
01:03:21.181 --> 01:03:21.943
gonna we're gonna try to
01:03:21.983 --> 01:03:23.525
pump out more uh more content
01:03:24.246 --> 01:03:26.369
I'm excited for AI to help
01:03:26.409 --> 01:03:28.911
me pull out reels from this episode.
01:03:28.931 --> 01:03:29.532
For sure.
01:03:29.552 --> 01:03:33.956
There's been a lot of good content there.
01:03:34.297 --> 01:03:35.277
So awesome.
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All right, friends.
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Well, we got to go.
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You all enjoy the rest of your Saturday.
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Keep your hats on, but your minds open.
01:03:41.965 --> 01:03:42.766
And we'll chat soon.
Larisa Black
AI Literacy Coach and STEM Teacher
I am a passionate educator with a strong focus on Artificial Intelligence (AI) and its integration in the classroom. As an AI literacy coach and seasoned science teacher, I have dedicated my career to equipping fellow educators with the knowledge and tools to embrace AI's transformative power in education.